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GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:11.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[1]
PB[ING2005]
PW[ING2005]
DT[2005-08-09]
PC[IGS-PandaNet]
KM[7.5]
GN[Lu Wang 8d (W) vs Cornel Burzo 7d (B)]
BR[8d]
WR[8d]
C[Observing game 114 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         BigDog 6k*         guest4155 NR             olczyk 16k*
Found 3 observers.
olczyk [16k*\]: Roughly when does the game start?
ING2005: about 5 minutes]
CA[UTF-8];B[cp]
C[Observing game 114 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         BigDog 6k*            olczyk 16k*       HansWerner NR
        MailSgf NR           Antonius NR           play4fun 2d*
      guest4155 NR    
Found 7 observers.]
;W[pd];B[qp];W[cd];B[ed];W[ec]
C[Observing game 114 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         BigDog 6k*            olczyk 16k*       HansWerner NR
        MailSgf NR           Antonius NR           play4fun 2d*
      guest4155 NR              vvvv2 1k*             Jaiyk 16k
        Skimpy1 21k         guest4216 NR          guest4217 NR
     NinazDaddy 9k    
Found 13 observers.]
;B[fc];W[dc]
;B[jp]
C[Game adjourned on disconnection.
Reloading game.
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
        chebai1 4d*          Antonius NR    
Found 5 observers.]
;W[qj]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             aesop 4k*
          Jaiyk 16k               erc 4d*            beaver 1d
          mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR
          galuf 5d*              zimt NR           alamanga 6k*
        thissao 18k*  
Found 16 observers.]
;B[nc]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             Jaiyk 16k
            erc 4d*            beaver 1d              mkoni 10k
          hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
       alamanga 6k*         goliath88 NR             BigDog 6k*
           gg32 2k          guest4234 NR              jacko 1k*
            kjs 1k*   
Found 19 observers.]
;W[pf]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             Jaiyk 16k
            erc 4d*            beaver 1d              mkoni 10k
          hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
       alamanga 6k*            BigDog 6k*              gg32 2k
            kjs 1k*         USMasters 8d             cyrano 22k
         djk121 20k            NMATTO 4k*        HansWerner NR
        justin1 6k*   
Found 22 observers.]
;B[fd]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             Jaiyk 16k
            erc 4d*            beaver 1d              mkoni 10k
          hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
       alamanga 6k*            BigDog 6k*              gg32 2k
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k            NMATTO 4k*
     HansWerner NR                 v5 4d*            Haiyun 6k*
          TATSU 1d*            CroCop NR          ShadowZen 1d*
        skyjet2 3d*            OOTORI 4k*           justin1 6k*
        MilkTea 19k*        guest4250 NR    
Found 29 observers.]
;W[cf];B[jd]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             Jaiyk 16k
            erc 4d*            beaver 1d              mkoni 10k
          hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
       alamanga 6k*            BigDog 6k*              gg32 2k
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k            NMATTO 4k*
     HansWerner NR                 v5 4d*            Haiyun 6k*
          TATSU 1d*            CroCop NR          ShadowZen 1d*
        skyjet2 3d*              seth 1k*          yukio210 2k*
           noir NR         NinazDaddy 9k          GoTrainee 22k*
      guest4182 NR    
Found 31 observers.]
;W[oq];B[mq]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
         olczyk 16k*        guest4155 NR         Funkybside 5k*
       Antonius NR                 el 5k*             Jaiyk 16k
            erc 4d*            beaver 1d              mkoni 10k
          hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
       alamanga 6k*            BigDog 6k*              gg32 2k
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k            NMATTO 4k*
     HansWerner NR                 v5 4d*            Haiyun 6k*
          TATSU 1d*            CroCop NR          ShadowZen 1d*
        skyjet2 3d*              seth 1k*          yukio210 2k*
           noir NR          GoTrainee 22k*        guest4143 NR
          carp1 7d*           gotirol 1d*           MailSgf NR
          bd03r 22k          Otesanek 4k*            demian 3d*
         HIGASI 6k*          xiangyin 1k    
Found 38 observers.]
;W[oo]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*          Antonius NR                 el 5k*
          Jaiyk 16k               erc 4d*            beaver 1d
          mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR
           zimt NR           alamanga 6k*            BigDog 6k*
           gg32 2k          USMasters 8d             djk121 20k
     HansWerner NR             Haiyun 6k*             TATSU 1d*
         CroCop NR            skyjet2 3d*              seth 1k*
      GoTrainee 22k*        guest4143 NR            MailSgf NR
       Otesanek 4k*            demian 3d*          xiangyin 1k
          decay 2d*        richzhao68 4k*         guest1756 NR
         domina 4k*         guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*
        Kitsune 21k*        KingDrFun 21k               cho 2d*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR           Minowara 5k
         booboo 3d*         guest4280 NR    
Found 41 observers.]

;B[pq];W[pr];B[qr];W[pp];B[qq];W[qo];B[ro];W[qn];B[rn];W[qm]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*          Antonius NR                 el 5k*
          Jaiyk 16k               erc 4d*            beaver 1d
          mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k         guest4227 NR
           zimt NR             BigDog 6k*              gg32 2k
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k        HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            CroCop NR               seth 1k*
      GoTrainee 22k*        guest4143 NR            MailSgf NR
       Otesanek 4k*            demian 3d*          xiangyin 1k
          decay 2d*         guest1756 NR             domina 4k*
      guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*           Kitsune 21k*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR           Minowara 5k
         booboo 3d*            OOTORI 4k*                JC 6d*
        MH27214 2k               noir NR            skyjet2 3d*
Found 39 observers.]

;B[np];W[op];B[qc];W[pc];B[pb]
C[tweet [NR\]: tt]
;W[qd];B[rb];W[rc];B[qb];W[kd]
;B[ke];W[ld];B[je];W[nd];B[oc];W[le]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*          Antonius NR                erc 4d*
         beaver 1d              mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k
      guest4227 NR               zimt NR             BigDog 6k*
           gg32 2k          USMasters 8d             djk121 20k
     HansWerner NR             Haiyun 6k*            CroCop NR
           seth 1k*         GoTrainee 22k*          MailSgf NR
         demian 3d*             decay 2d*            domina 4k*
      guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*           Kitsune 21k*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR                 JC 6d*
           noir NR            skyjet2 3d*             gemgo 3d*
         HonShu 13k*        guest4143 NR             Miguel 1k*
      guest4290 NR          guest4292 NR            Quendel 3k*
          tweet NR                bnm 22k            olczyk 16k*
        yo1209s 2k*           dzhaony 4d*         guest4299 NR
         nohero 1d*   
Found 43 observers.]
;B[lf];W[mf];B[lg]
C[BigDog [6k*\]: woofwoof]
;W[mg]
;B[lh]
C[BigDog [6k*\]: no comments on the game?
ING2005: not yet, do you have any? :)]
;W[dk]
C[JnM [3k\]: hi
Funkybside [5k*\]: just that i'm glad to catch it
Funkybside [5k*\]: this is live at the go congress correct?
ING2005: yep
ING2005: I'm at the table with the players
Funkybside [5k*\]: wow, the scribe speaks! cool!
dzhaony [4d*\]: this is board 2?
Funkybside [5k*\]: where is this congress located?
ING2005: yeah, this is board #2
ING2005: the Congress is in Tacoma, WA this year
ING2005: next year it will be in North Carolina
Funkybside [5k*\]: thank you
ING2005: no problem :)
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*          Antonius NR                erc 4d*
         beaver 1d              mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k
      guest4227 NR               zimt NR             BigDog 6k*
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k        HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            CroCop NR               seth 1k*
      GoTrainee 22k*          MailSgf NR             domina 4k*
      guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*           Kitsune 21k*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR               noir NR
          gemgo 3d*            HonShu 13k*        guest4143 NR
         Miguel 1k*             tweet NR                bnm 22k
         olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*         guest4299 NR
            DJJ 2d*             decay 2d*                JC 6d*
            JnM 3k           nouvelle 4d          guest4307 NR
         socool 4d*          microsky 5k*        richzhao68 4k*
Found 42 observers.
dzhaony [4d*\]: thekomi is 7.5?]
;B[eh]
C[ING2005: yes, the official AGA komi is 7.5
Funkybside [5k*\]: Lu Wang?  I wonder if it's the same Lu Wang \
who visits the St. Louis club.  Anyone know?
dzhaony [4d*\]: yeah
dzhaony [4d*\]: he is last year US open runner up
dzhaony [4d*\]: the black guy is from romania
Funkybside [5k*\]: wow, Jason told me hes strong, but I didn't \
know
Funkybside [5k*\]: I know cornel too, but not in person
dzhaony [4d*\]: both r very strong players
Funkybside [5k*\]: yes
dzhaony [4d*\]: e12 is a great move
jacko [1k*\]: more exciting 167
dzhaony [4d*\]: from now on, the game will become more interesting
Funkybside [5k*\]: this is a treat, lucky to be off work today
dzhaony [4d*\]: now , w need to make a decision
dzhaony [4d*\]: w probabaly will invade at bottom
dzhaony [4d*\]: but he is thinking how to avoid been attacked \
for his d9
BigDog [6k*\]: hey is this jb?
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*          Antonius NR                erc 4d*
         beaver 1d              mkoni 10k             hrudy 22k
      guest4227 NR               zimt NR             BigDog 6k*
      USMasters 8d             djk121 20k        HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            CroCop NR               seth 1k*
      GoTrainee 22k*          MailSgf NR             domina 4k*
      guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*            dniles 10k*
      guest4278 NR              gemgo 3d*            HonShu 13k*
      guest4143 NR             Miguel 1k*             tweet NR
            bnm 22k            olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*
      guest4299 NR                DJJ 2d*             decay 2d*
             JC 6d*               JnM 3k           nouvelle 4d
      guest4307 NR             socool 4d*          microsky 5k*
     richzhao68 4k*         guest4310 NR         countlessy 12k
            lok 1d*            sombra 6k*          play4fun 2d*
Found 45 observers.
play4fun [2d*\]: who are the players in this game?
countlessy [12k\]: ...
BigDog [6k*\]: do not know w, but black is Cornel here on igs
countlessy [12k\]: How about reading, for a change ?
ING2005: Lu Wang 8d is White, Cornel Burzo 7d is Black
BigDog [6k*\]: igs 7d
play4fun [2d*\]: thanks
dzhaony [4d*\]: i bet w will probabaly e3 for next
countlessy [12k\]: use 'bet E3' then ... ^^]
;W[eq]
C[sombra [6k*\]: xiu ^_^
dzhaony [4d*\]: i think w leads now
Funkybside [5k*\]: how many players left in ING cup, how many \
more games?
dzhaony [4d*\]: ing cup 16 players as always
dzhaony [4d*\]: total 4 rounds
ING2005: the ING cup is 4 rounds
ING2005: two remaining]
;B[gq]
C[dzhaony [4d*\]: this is the US open, not ings cup
ING2005: yes, the ING will be broadcast this afternoon
dzhaony [4d*\]: the person who help to display this game is using \
an account 2005ING
dzhaony [4d*\]: does not mean this is INg cup game:)
ING2005: because the person showing board #1 is using the USOpen2005 \
account :)
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*               erc 4d*         guest4227 NR
           zimt NR             BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d
     HansWerner NR             Haiyun 6k*            CroCop NR
           seth 1k*         GoTrainee 22k*          MailSgf NR
         domina 4k*         guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR              gemgo 3d*
      guest4143 NR             Miguel 1k*             tweet NR
         olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*         guest4299 NR
            DJJ 2d*               JnM 3k           nouvelle 4d
      guest4307 NR             socool 4d*          microsky 5k*
     countlessy 12k               lok 1d*            sombra 6k*
       play4fun 2d*             walin 19k         guest4328 NR
           noir NR              hrudy 22k            beaver 1d
          Topoi 6k*             Phong 11k*              CTC 5k*
      CyberMage 9k*           Shigeji 2k*            Trollo NR
           tuna 12k*             aout 18k*           raenef 9k*
        soandso 8k*   
Found 49 observers.
aout [18k*\]: hi
CyberMage [9k*\]: hi
aout [18k*\]: excuse me; what is going on now%?
ING2005: this is Board #2 from round 3 of the U.S. Open
dzhaony [4d*\]: could u tell me who is playing borad #3 and #4?
aout [18k*\]: is it a normal game or a championship?
ING2005: live from the U.S. Go Congress
aout [18k*\]: alright, cool. I wish good luck to everybody
ING2005: I can't see the table placards from here, so I'
dzhaony [4d*\]: hi, ING2005
ING2005: I'm not sure from this angle which is table 3 and 4
dzhaony [4d*\]: ic thx
dzhaony [4d*\]: a few of my friends played the open section
USMasters [8d\]: one moment dzhaony]
;W[cn]
C[JnM [3k\]: W leads ?
dzhaony [4d*\]: well, since the komi is 7.5 so i prefer w now
Funkybside [5k*\]: seems hard to count black at this point, No?
dzhaony [4d*\]: it's too early to say that, but I prefer w:)
JnM [3k\]: :-)
Funkybside [5k*\]: fair enough :0)
USMasters [8d\]: dzhaony -- board #3 is Eric Lui (w) vs. Joey \
Hung (B)]
;B[dq]
C[USMasters [8d\]: dzhaony -- board #4 is Jong Moon Lee (W) vs. \
Takahiro Kitagawa (B)
dzhaony [4d*\]: thanks USmasters
USMasters [8d\]: no, that's USMasters ... :-)
olczyk [16k*\]: That's what he said UsMasters
USMasters [8d\]: IGS accts are case sensitive
Funkybside [5k*\]: indeed
dzhaony [4d*\]: ic:)
dzhaony [4d*\]: u r not playing? USMasters?
USMasters [8d\]: a third game for USMasters will be broadcasted \
later from this acct]
;W[ep];B[do]
C[dzhaony [4d*\]: do u know the kids" chen, zhaonian"? who played \
with xuefen, lin1p yesterday?
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*               erc 4d*         guest4227 NR
           zimt NR             BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d
     HansWerner NR             Haiyun 6k*         GoTrainee 22k*
         domina 4k*         guest4271 NR             musubi 5k*
         dniles 10k*        guest4278 NR              gemgo 3d*
      guest4143 NR              tweet NR             olczyk 16k*
        dzhaony 4d*         guest4299 NR                DJJ 2d*
            JnM 3k           nouvelle 4d          guest4307 NR
       microsky 5k*        countlessy 12k               lok 1d*
         sombra 6k*          play4fun 2d*             walin 19k
      guest4328 NR               noir NR              hrudy 22k
         beaver 1d              Topoi 6k*               CTC 5k*
      CyberMage 9k*           Shigeji 2k*            Trollo NR
        soandso 8k*        richgilson NR          armywe1q1 14k
       Antonius NR            joachim 1d*               MHO 3k
         devore 10k*         alamanga 5k*         guest4347 NR
           Coda 13k*           astley 10k*         temuchen 5k
Found 51 observers.
USMasters [8d\]: third USMasters game is scheduled for 7pm Aug \
12th Pacific Time
ING2005: oh, no ING round today?]
;W[iq]
C[USMasters [8d\]: ING Round Today is 7pm
ING2005: oh, today's not the 12th
ING2005: right
USMasters [8d\]: USMasters is not connected to ING Tournament]

;B[ip]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: ING2005 is tweet?
dzhaony [4d*\]: game will be played on 12th 7pm pacific time?
ING2005: yes, but Jie Li is playing in both - that would be difficult \
if they were running at the same time :)
ING2005: so is Thomas Hsiang
ING2005: the U.S. Masters game will be on the 12th at 7 pm
USMasters [8d\]: Hey, that's my job
ING2005: hehe
dzhaony [4d*\]: how many ppl played the US master thisyear?]
;W[gp]
C[ING2005: in the preliminary rounds?
dzhaony [4d*\]: y
dzhaony [4d*\]: i heard fengyun 9p lost to jie li and Thosmas
dzhaony [4d*\]: was wondering who else played?
ING2005: I think it was 16, but I'd have to double check
dzhaony [4d*\]: does thos pro's all attend?
ING2005: Yuan Zhou was in the preliminaries
USMasters [8d\]: only six played in USMasters -- was supposed \
to be 8 but 2 dropped out
ING2005: ah, ok
dzhaony [4d*\]: except yuan zhou and fengyun, who else?]
;B[hq]
C[USMasters [8d\]: 2 dropped out for personal reasons, let's not \
pry further
ING2005: he wants to know who the players were
ING2005: he's not asking about the two who dropped out and why
USMasters [8d\]: ok, we'll research that and get back with you \
on a rainy day
ING2005: Jie Li, Thomas Hsiang, Feng Yun, Yuan Zhou, and who \
were the other two?]
;W[dr];B[cr]
C[dzhaony [4d*\]: y
USMasters [8d\]: players were  Feng Yun, Jie Li, Jung Hoon Lee, \
THomas Hsiang, Joey Hung and Yuan Zhou
USMasters [8d\]: drops were Yilun Yang and Hui Ren Yang
dzhaony [4d*\]: ic thx
dzhaony [4d*\]: do u know, what's the condition to attend this \
masters tourney?
USMasters [8d\]: USMasters sponsored by AGA and Ing Foundation
USMasters [8d\]: I suspect that invitation is based on points \
acquired by other tournament play
ING2005: I think there are multiple requirements
dzhaony [4d*\]: such as US citizenship or at least green cards?
ING2005: strength, points from ATGC tournaments, and citizenship \
or permanent residency
olczyk [16k*\]: Hmm. Is Yilun Yang still attending the Congress?
ING2005: no, he just moved to a new house and it made a schedule \
conflict for him
ING2005: rather, is moving to a new house
dzhaony [4d*\]: what's the top prize for USMaster?
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
         BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d         HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            musubi 5k*            dniles 10k*
          gemgo 3d*         guest4143 NR              tweet NR
         olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*               DJJ 2d*
       nouvelle 4d          guest4307 NR           microsky 5k*
     countlessy 12k            sombra 6k*          play4fun 2d*
          walin 19k         guest4328 NR               noir NR
          hrudy 22k            beaver 1d              Topoi 6k*
      CyberMage 9k*           Shigeji 2k*            Trollo NR
        soandso 8k*         armywe1q1 14k          Antonius NR
        joachim 1d*               MHO 3k             devore 10k*
       alamanga 5k*         guest4347 NR               Coda 13k*
         astley 10k*         temuchen 5k            argaman 4k*
          decay 2d*             misty 3k*            JoceeL 2d*
         band1t 22k              aout 18k*             anty 3k*
         Castor 4k*   
Found 49 observers.
USMasters [8d\]: I should know :-)   but I don't.   Not published \
in the Go Congress handbook.]
;W[dp]
C[ING2005 undid the last move (C3) .]
;B[co];W[cq];B[bq]
C[USMasters [8d\]: four figures
ING2005: sorry about that
deathjr [5d*\]: may I ask who won the Redmond Cup at Congress?]
;W[cm]
C[OM [5d*\]: wow
OM [5d*\]: typo or genius
USMasters [8d\]: Redmond Cup still in progress --
ING2005: C7 is the move :)
USMasters [8d\]: They play with the ING Tournament players
deathjr [5d*\]: thx
OM [5d*\]: if a kyu player put c7 I explain him is bad, but now \
???/
USMasters [8d\]: not to chase anybody away but Board #1 of this \
U.S. Open is at game #167
deathjr [5d*\]: how do you get invited to play at ING?
ING2005: it defends against c8 and plans to link up at f6; I'm \
sure there's more to it than that, but I'm just a 2 dan :)
ING2005: f7 better than f6, actually
Funkybside [5k*\]: looks like it grabs some $$ too
USMasters [8d\]: the ING is selected according to country represenatives, \
apparently
deathjr [5d*\]: ic
USMasters [8d\]: 16 players for ING this year are:  Jie LIe, Yongfei \
Ge, Jong Moon Lee, Lianzhou Yu
olczyk [16k*\]: Not to keep anyone but board #1 looks like early \
end.
USMasters [8d\]: Thomas Hsiang, Joey Hung, Jung Hoon Lee, Ted \
Ning, Yuan Zhou, Edward Kim, I-Han Lui, Eric Lui, Jon Boley, \
Jin Chen and two Canadian Players
olczyk [16k*\]: or not ...]

;B[em]
C[Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
         BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d         HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            musubi 5k*            dniles 10k*
      guest4143 NR              tweet NR             olczyk 16k*
        dzhaony 4d*               DJJ 2d*          nouvelle 4d
      guest4307 NR         countlessy 12k            sombra 6k*
       play4fun 2d*             walin 19k         guest4328 NR
          hrudy 22k            beaver 1d              Topoi 6k*
      CyberMage 9k*           Shigeji 2k*           soandso 8k*
      armywe1q1 14k          Antonius NR            joachim 1d*
            MHO 3k             devore 10k*         alamanga 5k*
      guest4347 NR             astley 10k*            misty 3k*
           aout 18k*           Castor 4k*           federer 4k*
            erc 4d*               CTC 5k*         guest4397 NR
      madhatter 1d*                OM 5d*          temuchen 5k
       Forupdan 2d*          Punisher 5d*          Internet 6k*
       tehilley 5k*             decay 2d*         Excalibur 1k*
      guest2329 NR              Scoun 3k*        takeonetap 5k*
         vsnlee 6k*   
Found 55 observers.
armywe1q1 [14k\]: w's right side is too big, and b's center will \
get devoured. hate to say it, but looks like a sure win for w. \
unless ....]
;W[eo];B[dn]
C[dzhaony [4d*\]: tough game for both
dzhaony [4d*\]: w want c12
dzhaony [4d*\]: but he is afraid his E4 group been sealed
olczyk [16k*\]: So does Black]
;W[br];B[dq];W[hp];B[ir];W[cq];B[fk]
C[ING2005: the players have decided to adjourn for lunch in a few \
minutes]
;W[cs]
;B[ek]
C[ING2005: at least, that's what I thought they said :)
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
         BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d         HansWerner NR
         Haiyun 6k*            dniles 10k*        guest4143 NR
          tweet NR             olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*
            DJJ 2d*          nouvelle 4d         countlessy 12k
         sombra 6k*          play4fun 2d*             walin 19k
      guest4328 NR              hrudy 22k            beaver 1d
          Topoi 6k*         CyberMage 9k*           Shigeji 2k*
        soandso 8k*         armywe1q1 14k          Antonius NR
            MHO 3k             devore 10k*         alamanga 5k*
      guest4347 NR             astley 10k*             aout 18k*
         Castor 4k*               erc 4d*         guest4397 NR
      madhatter 1d*                OM 5d*          Forupdan 2d*
       Punisher 5d*          tehilley 5k*             decay 2d*
      Excalibur 1k*         guest2329 NR              Scoun 3k*
     takeonetap 5k*            TGS005 2d*            gobaby 3d*
         Cornel 7d*           Tantris 6d*           Jubilee 10k*
       drFilius 19k            Pempuh 2d*            bombay 4d*
        shutaka 6k*            zhenyu 3d*         guest4403 NR
          Tiger 4k*           joachim 1d*         guest4434 NR
         ggodev NR         braneworld 3k*           darksun 6k
        mantzii 1d*           malweth 10k                g3 3d*
      guest4436 NR          guest4437 NR         flOvermind NR
         fuyuan 2d*         guest4429 NR          guest4420 NR
       Internet 6k*   
Found 73 observers.]
;W[ci];B[mh];W[dh]
C[ING2005: the players are preparing to adjourn for lunch
Pempuh [2d*\]: sure?-)
ING2005: Black is thinking about his sealed move now
Pempuh [2d*\]: they seal for lunch?
Pempuh [2d*\]: weird
USMasters [8d\]: lunchtime
countlessy [12k\]: Well
armywe1q1 [14k\]: how long is lunch? >.<
ING2005: Black has sealed his move
Pempuh [2d*\]: looks like white played kikashi so now b has to \
seal an obvious move
ING2005: we will return in 1/2 hour
Jubilee [10k*\]: ouch, fast food :(
USMasters [8d\]: i think it may be more than 1/2 hour
USMasters [8d\]: kimchee sandwiches for lunch
Jubilee [10k*\]: :(
bombay [4d*\]: hi
YellowDog [15k\]: Cornel is watching.... :-D
tweet [NR\]: tt
bombay [4d*\]: tweet , what means kimchee?
tweet [NR\]: boiled cabbage served cold with chili pepers, garlic, \
and anchovy paste
tweet [NR\]: a traditional Korean side dish, servered with everything, \
including chocolate cake
tweet [NR\]: yes
Jubilee [10k*\]: Why not, salad, crudity or something light to \
digest :) !
raenef [9k*\]: ...
dniles [10k*\]: What time did this game start?
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*         guest4227 NR               zimt NR
         BigDog 6k*         USMasters 8d             dniles 10k*
      guest4143 NR              tweet NR             olczyk 16k*
        dzhaony 4d*               DJJ 2d*          nouvelle 4d
     countlessy 12k          play4fun 2d*           Shigeji 2k*
        soandso 8k*         armywe1q1 14k          Antonius NR
            MHO 3k             devore 10k*         alamanga 5k*
      guest4347 NR               aout 18k*           Castor 4k*
            erc 4d*                OM 5d*          Punisher 5d*
      guest2329 NR              Scoun 3k*        takeonetap 5k*
         TGS005 2d*            gobaby 3d*           Jubilee 10k*
      guest4434 NR            mantzii 1d*           malweth 10k
      guest4436 NR          guest4445 NR         starsurfer 10k*
            ttt 2d*         YellowDog 15k           discolo 18k
         domina 4k*            ohshik 1k*             hrudy 22k
         sss111 5d*            astley 10k*              Its NR
      guest4475 NR               vazy 16k*           Selver 9k*
         Vulcan NR          guest4484 NR             Haiyun 6k*
        gonowgo 5k*            beaver 1d              boudu 4d*
          WALTZ 2k             sombra 6k*          jansteen 5d*
           eris 4d*        HansWerner NR             bombay 4d*
          bjorn 2k          guest4496 NR               Beus 2k
          Phong 11k*            crisb 2d*             jayne 2d*
      YeknomGib 22k*          xvektor 16k*             agem 4d*
      guest4512 NR    
Found 73 observers.
ING2005: The players have returned]
;B[eg]
C[ING2005: the sealed move was E13]
;W[ei];B[fi];W[rm];B[or];W[nr]
;B[ps];W[nq];B[pi];W[qi];B[ph];W[qh];B[ml];W[hn]
C[jacko [1k*\]: I suppose w resign on the other game
Internet [6k*\]: this is live game?
ING2005: yes, this is live
ING2005: from the U.S. Go Congress
Internet [6k*\]: wow
Internet [6k*\]: cornel is the one often playing here?
ING2005: yes]
;B[im]
C[Internet [6k*\]: interesting :)
Internet [6k*\]: thanks for your boardcasting
Funkybside [5k*\]: and Lu Wang frequents my (small) go club, very \
interesting for me :0)
ING2005: you're welcome :)]
;W[hm]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: yes, much thanks
jacko [1k*\]: so u know Lu,what's the handi he gave you?,,,a hand \
full of stons? ...:)]

;B[hl];W[gl]
C[dniles [10k*\]: What time did this game start?]
;B[hk];W[dl];B[fm];W[ej]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: 9:20 AM pacific US
nelsonww [5k*\]: cabbage is ahead?]
;B[fj]
C[armywe1q1 [14k\]: w is just helping b solidify that center. ^_^
nouvelle [4d\]: is this Cornel the Romania Cornel?
armywe1q1 [14k\]: yes nouvelle
nelsonww [5k*\]: yeah but nobody wins with center territory ;p
CyberMage [9k*\]: is he B or W?
armywe1q1 [14k\]: b
Funkybside [5k*\]: both Cornel and Lu are, imho, young for their \
strengths, neither can be older than ~25
nouvelle [4d\]: thx,
armywe1q1 [14k\]: i dunno , looks like b is doing pretty well]
;W[kq];B[kp];W[lq]
;B[lp];W[mr];B[jq]
C[nelsonww [5k*\]: w j6?
Internet [6k*\]: black is leading quite a lot]
;W[mn]
C[nelsonww [5k*\]: i knew he would play there
nelsonww [5k*\]: is a 7d amature = 1d pro?
Funkybside [5k*\]: Lu Wang is 8d AGA, Cornel is 7d* IGS... IGS \
ranks tend to be stronger than AGA, but how much?
nelsonww [5k*\]: people say igs is 1-2 stones stronger
nelsonww [5k*\]: or 1-3
nouvelle [4d\]: what is AGA
nelsonww [5k*\]: american go association?
Funkybside [5k*\]: American Go Association
Funkybside [5k*\]: www.usgo.org]
;B[od]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: thx again, Funkybside]
;W[ne];B[rd];W[re];B[sc]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: b got a very  good showoff
Funkybside [5k*\]: agreed
nelsonww [5k*\]: what is a showoff?
nelsonww [5k*\]: does bside = backside?  lol
Funkybside [5k*\]: last few moves by black, good timing imo
nelsonww [5k*\]: what is a showoff?
Funkybside [5k*\]: the reverse of the 'a' side perhaps?
nelsonww [5k*\]: no "a" side is the backside lol
Funkybside [5k*\]: it's a left over name from breakdancing days, \
so b from b-boy really.
nelsonww [5k*\]: Funky u gonna tell us what a "showoff" is?]
;W[jm]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: showdown is how i interperted the commend, \
based on context
Funkybside [5k*\]: comment^^
nelsonww [5k*\]: oh i c ha
jacko [1k*\]: winning convincingly
nelsonww [5k*\]: or, a series of plays that show off his ability?
Phong [11k*\]: Which one is gonna win?
nelsonww [5k*\]: ok, since mine was a gueyss, ill take that as \
the definitive answer
crisb [2d*\]: Someone will win convincingly]

;B[jk]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: almost ruined my experiment, right on time
Funkybside [5k*\]: nelsonww, i mentioned above that when he said \
'showoff', i understood it as 'showdown' or 'fight'
Internet [6k*\]: looks like black leads about 10
Funkybside [5k*\]: i think game will be coser than that
nouvelle [4d\]: what r u arguing abot?
Internet [6k*\]: black has s14 to play so white looks not that \
good
Internet [6k*\]: black's center is fixed but white's place looks \
a bit too low in position]
;W[nk]
C[nelsonww [5k*\]: shouldnt w take n4?]
;B[mk]
C[Internet [6k*\]: this move looks good white is much higher now \
in right side
nelsonww [5k*\]: er n3
Funkybside [5k*\]: n4 is gote for b, and 2-4 pts for w at most, \
so it's too small imo
nelsonww [5k*\]: i knew he was gona play around there anyway hhe
Its [NR\]: g18 bigger than n4, no?
Its [NR\]: h18  sorry
nouvelle [4d\]: this is a boring game,
Internet [6k*\]: really not much fight]
;W[nl]
C[Internet [6k*\]: all about calculation
Funkybside [5k*\]: yes]
;B[rf]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: not boring for them though]
;W[qf];B[se]
C[Jubilee [10k*\]: Well, for me, I like it :)]
;W[rg];B[qe]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: not boring for me either, but definatly all \
about calculation
TGS005 [2d*\]: anyone can tell me their time situation
Funkybside [5k*\]: good question
ING2005: white has 18 minutes main time remaining
ING2005: black has 24 minutes remaining
Jubilee [10k*\]: Thank you for this indications
TGS005 [2d*\]: thx
ING2005: you're welcome
nouvelle [4d\]: b is leading the game from the very begining]
;W[jc]
;B[ic];W[kb]
C[TGS005 [2d*\]: b is not leading
nouvelle [4d\]: really?]
;B[jb];W[kc]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: even I wish w could win the game]
;B[ib];W[pe]
C[TGS005 [2d*\]: b has slightly over 60
CyberMage [9k*\]: and white?>
Jubilee [10k*\]: Komi 7.5 ?]
;B[mm];W[nm];B[in]
C[USMasters [8d\]: yes  komi 7.5]
;W[ni]
;B[nh]
C[TGS005 [2d*\]: guess q15 not big
nouvelle [4d\]: when the new rule took effect? 7.5 komi, that \
much?]
;W[ln]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: 7.5 does seem large, but dont they base komi \
on statistical analysis of large # of games?]
;B[lm]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: i guess so
USMasters [8d\]: this Go Congress uses new rule of 7.5 komi
TGS005 [2d*\]: oh
ING2005: I'm not certain when the new komi took effect
TGS005 [2d*\]: maybe q15 big
ING2005: I believe it was sometime earlier this year
favorito [3k*\]: q15 8 -9 points but b q15 sente
Internet [6k*\]: black wins over 10, white probably resign
nouvelle [4d\]: what the komi of Ing cup?
nouvelle [4d\]: 7.5?
ING2005: ING Cup has technically 8.0 komi, but Black wins ties
ING2005: so basically 7.5 :)
Jubilee [10k*\]: Black reduction on the UR was fine
Funkybside [5k*\]: so effectivly 7.5
nouvelle [4d\]: thx, ING
TGS005 [2d*\]: q15 makes cut at p12
TGS005 [2d*\]: that is big]
;W[kn]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: p14 you mean?
OM [5d*\]: komi 8 is not to big?
TGS005 [2d*\]: no p12
nouvelle [4d\]: yes, it is
ING2005: hard to say, needs more statistical analysis with the \
new komi :)
ING2005: with a komi 6.5, black won 53% of games
OM [5d*\]: b has to kill w to win on komi 8
TGS005 [2d*\]: guess komi depends on player style
Jubilee [10k*\]: or secure big moyo :)
TGS005 [2d*\]: the new rule say u can choose b/w]
;B[mc];W[jl]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: by 8 komi, w seems not bad
OM [5d*\]: komi 6,5 53 % for b, komi 8 b loose 95% :-)]
;B[kk]
C[Phong [11k*\]: n3? can't understand
Jubilee [10k*\]: :)
Funkybside [5k*\]: tweet, how many games were in the sample?]
;W[il]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: is tweet here?
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*              zimt NR          USMasters 8d
         dniles 10k*        guest4143 NR              tweet NR
         olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*               DJJ 2d*
       play4fun 2d*           Shigeji 2k*          Antonius NR
            MHO 3k          guest4347 NR                erc 4d*
      guest2329 NR              Scoun 3k*        takeonetap 5k*
         TGS005 2d*           Jubilee 10k*        guest4434 NR
        mantzii 1d*           malweth 10k        starsurfer 10k*
      YellowDog 15k           discolo 18k            domina 4k*
         sss111 5d*               Its NR          guest4475 NR
         Vulcan NR            gonowgo 5k*            beaver 1d
          WALTZ 2k             sombra 6k*          jansteen 5d*
           eris 4d*        HansWerner NR          guest4496 NR
          crisb 2d*         YeknomGib 22k*              CTC 5k*
      guest4504 NR          guest4426 NR             Castor 4k*
           aout 18k*           Haiyun 6k*            zhenyu 3d*
      armywe1q1 14k               kix NR          guest4523 NR
       DanielHe 1d*         guest4514 NR             takinc 2k*
       Internet 6k*          favorito 3k*        magicsmoke 21k*
      guest4517 NR             ohshik 1k*             dchgo 4k*
      CyberMage 9k*             hedge 2k*            vsnlee 6k*
       nouvelle 4d          guest4441 NR             devore 10k*
          Phong 11k*             Coda 13k*            ExplO 13k
      guest4558 NR             statue 3d*           glgodev NR
       microsky 5k*            mz2003 2d*         guest4557 NR
        hoover2 2k*           merttun 8k*             hrudy 22k
         RudyLi 2k*          Peekaboo 10k*          Mumbles NR
         bombay 4d*        GrantHuang 3d*         guest4585 NR
      theolddan 2d*            zensin 3k*          HIROSI38 5d*
             OM 5d*        RainierBob 6k             Trollo NR
         fringD 11k*        guest4593 NR            admanjb 7k*
         mtnman 4k*           chebai1 4d*             jacko 1k*
       GompieGo 1d          guest4592 NR               vazy 16k*
       fajnymis 3k            skyjet2 3d*               J74 5d*
         akushu 4d              JacNo 15k         guest4597 NR
        songoku 6k*            ggodev NR               rvs2 3k
         visnja 22k*             ogon 1k*        taisetuzan 1k*
Found 111 observers.
Funkybside [5k*\]: is tweet the scribe?
TGS005 [2d*\]: peparing to cut at p12
ING2005: nope
Phong [11k*\]: not n3 but n17
dzhaony [4d*\]: bad endding for b
nouvelle [4d\]: ING2005, r u true 8d?
Funkybside [5k*\]: oh, sorry.  -- ING2005, how many games were \
in the "6.5 b w 53%" sample?
Funkybside [5k*\]: 2d
ING2005: I don't know, I just remember that statistic from somewhere; \
I think it was from the Nihon Kiin]
;B[jn];W[km]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: w may win considering these last 5-10 moves
Funkybside [5k*\]: ok, thanks anyway]

;B[mj]
C[TGS005 [2d*\]: wow b k6
TGS005 [2d*\]: bad
nouvelle [4d\]: n 17 is the worst move for b
Phong [11k*\]: i agree]
;W[fr];B[kr];W[lr]
C[akushu [4d\]: b must think he is behind]
;B[gm]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: n17 is fatal at this moment]
;W[gn];B[gr];W[ks];B[jr];W[ik]
;B[ij];W[eb]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: f18 is huge]
;B[pj];W[pk];B[dg];W[cg];B[fb];W[kl];B[lk];W[sn]
;B[rp]
C[Jubilee [10k*\]: N4 is going to be good soon
Jubilee [10k*\]: but not sente for B :(
Internet [6k*\]: m18 looks better if black plays
Phong [11k*\]: o18 yet?
GompieGo [1d\]: indeed
Jubilee [10k*\]: Yes
Jubilee [10k*\]: N17 gives many sente for B now
CyberMage [9k*\]: B4 point? or B5?]
;W[bn];B[ng];W[nf];B[md];W[me];B[lb]
C[takeonetap [5k*\]: B6 > N18 or O18?
Phong [11k*\]: white miss a opportunity o18!
takeonetap [5k*\]: ops, n19
nouvelle [4d\]: o10]
;W[nj]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: w leading by like 3.5 something]
;B[bp]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: that's not true
nouvelle [4d\]: even i hope so]
;W[de]
C[nouvelle [4d\]: bye all, time for dinner
CyberMage [9k*\]: peace
ING2005: thanks for watching
Observing game 33 (ING2005 vs. ING2005) :
     Funkybside 5k*              zimt NR          USMasters 8d
         dniles 10k*        guest4143 NR              tweet NR
         olczyk 16k*          dzhaony 4d*               DJJ 2d*
       play4fun 2d*           Shigeji 2k*          Antonius NR
            MHO 3k          guest4347 NR                erc 4d*
          Scoun 3k*        takeonetap 5k*            TGS005 2d*
        Jubilee 10k*          mantzii 1d*           malweth 10k
      YellowDog 15k           discolo 18k            domina 4k*
         sss111 5d*               Its NR          guest4475 NR
         Vulcan NR            gonowgo 5k*             WALTZ 2k
         sombra 6k*        HansWerner NR          guest4496 NR
          crisb 2d*         guest4504 NR          guest4426 NR
         Castor 4k*              aout 18k*           Haiyun 6k*
         zhenyu 3d*         armywe1q1 14k               kix NR
      guest4523 NR          guest4514 NR             takinc 2k*
       Internet 6k*          favorito 3k*        magicsmoke 21k*
      guest4517 NR              dchgo 4k*         CyberMage 9k*
          hedge 2k*            vsnlee 6k*          nouvelle 4d
      guest4441 NR             devore 10k*            Phong 11k*
           Coda 13k*        guest4558 NR             statue 3d*
        glgodev NR             mz2003 2d*         guest4557 NR
        hoover2 2k*             hrudy 22k            RudyLi 2k*
       Peekaboo 10k*          Mumbles NR             bombay 4d*
     GrantHuang 3d*         theolddan 2d*            zensin 3k*
             OM 5d*        RainierBob 6k             Trollo NR
         fringD 11k*        guest4593 NR            admanjb 7k*
         mtnman 4k*           chebai1 4d*             jacko 1k*
       GompieGo 1d          guest4592 NR               vazy 16k*
       fajnymis 3k            skyjet2 3d*            akushu 4d
      guest4597 NR            songoku 6k*            ggodev NR
         visnja 22k*             ogon 1k*          xiangyin 1k
     akujiki256 11k*          joachim 1d*         guest4605 NR
         ohshik 1k*              sark 7k*         guest4602 NR
       DanielHe 1d*        starsurfer 10k*              nae 2d*
      guest4613 NR             beaver 1d          guest4617 NR
           PETA 5k*             boudu 4d*          jansteen 5d*
      YeknomGib 22k*         Minowara 5k              Jumpy 11k*
      guest4621 NR           HIROSI38 5d*             jayne 2d*
      avalenche 19k*  
Found 115 observers.
CyberMage [9k*\]: S14 llooks kind of big
Phong [11k*\]: now n4 is big, imho
nouvelle [4d\]: thank for broadcasting, ING
ING2005: I'll be here all week :)
takeonetap [5k*\]: which one said that?
favorito [3k*\]: we will bw here, all weak
ING2005: well, not tomorrow - that's the Diehard tournament; \
no U.S. Open round is played tomorrow
sark [7k*\]: ING?
sark [7k*\]: I'm Not Good ?-)
ING2005: I don't think so, I think everything else is on hold \
until Thursday
sark [7k*\]: what ING mean?]

;B[ee]
C[ING2005: it's the name of the man who created the ING fund to \
promote go
dzhaony [4d*\]: n4
sark [7k*\]: the rich man Mr. Ing?]
;W[mp];B[dd]
C[tweet [NR\]: a fat-soluble vitamin that is essential for normal \
reproduction
ING2005: yep]
;W[fa]
C[sark [7k*\]: thank you]
;B[ga];W[ea];B[df];W[ce]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: man.. i have just recieved my order of GO books.. \
rr.. man 5 books on Joseki and Fuseki.. scary!! lol]
;B[ka];W[re]
C[TGS005 [2d*\]: w win]

;B[di];W[dj];B[qe];W[el];B[fl];W[re]
C[sark [7k*\]: i think life&death problems are best method]
;B[sf];W[sg];B[qe];W[hj]
;B[gk];W[re];B[sd]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: yeah but they can go that FAR>. if u are not \
good at Fuseki and don;t understand why u do joseki.. kind of \
L&D is becoming secondary]
;W[lo];B[so];W[sm]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: i disagree
Jubilee [10k*\]: How much is A2 ?
GompieGo [1d\]: all depends on your strength
CyberMage [9k*\]: i mean look here
sark [7k*\]: go is life&death itself
Funkybside [5k*\]: not to say I'm not drooling over the idea of \
5-7 new joseki/fuski books in my lap, however :0)]
;B[oj]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: where do u see hard L&D?]
;W[oh]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: everywhere in every game]
;B[og]
C[ING2005 undid the last move (P11) .]
;W[pg]
C[jayne [2d*\]: <-- went from 8k to 2k by studying L&D]

;B[oi]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: but here it is all elementary.. in the Lower \
side
sark [7k*\]: ?]
;W[ok];B[oh]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: the better you understand l&d, the better you \
can avoid/entice the situation altogether]
;W[ar]
C[ING2005: misclick, sorry]
;B[fs];W[es];B[gs];W[fq];B[fn]
C[sark [7k*\]: lol]
;W[fo]
;B[js]
C[akushu [4d\]: L&D problems are training in reading, good at all \
levels
CyberMage [9k*\]: well i am not saying that one should not study \
l&D.. nevertheless GO is not about L&D only]
;W[ls]
C[dniles [10k*\]: If I counted correctly, white leads by about 5]
;B[ao];W[dm];B[en]
C[akujiki256 [11k*\]: you should study both
Funkybside [5k*\]: i counted w+3.5
CyberMage [9k*\]: same 3.5]
;W[an]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: but that was over 6 moves ago]
;B[mi]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: o1]
;W[ns];B[os];W[io]
;B[jo];W[ho];B[lc];W[qg];B[qe]
C[sark [7k*\]: sure, but L&D is most important]
;W[bo];B[ap];W[re];B[oe];W[of]
;B[qe];W[rr];B[rs];W[re];B[ch];W[bh];B[qe];W[gb];B[ha];W[re]
;B[cc];W[cb];B[qe];W[ss];B[sr];W[re];B[bc];W[bb];B[qe];W[hb]
;B[ia];W[re];B[da];W[db];B[qe];W[la];B[ma];W[re];B[ab];W[bd]
;B[qe]
C[CyberMage [9k*\]: lol.. but i still say that L&D don;t teach u \
Global thinking . hence it is not the most IMprotrant ;)]
;W[sb];B[sa];W[re];B[ac];W[ad];B[qe];W[ii];B[jj];W[re]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: you will]

;B[ba];W[aa]
C[sark [7k*\]: not improve :)]
;B[qe];W[id];B[hc];W[re]
C[Funkybside [5k*\]: at 9k, or even 5k, global thinking < L&D :0)]
;B[ll];W[qe];B[aq];W[ko]
C[ING2005: white has been in byo-yomi almost since the ko fight \
began
ING2005: I just couldn't take time to tell you :P
Funkybside [5k*\]: :0)
Funkybside [5k*\]: w wins?
CyberMage [9k*\]: he better
TGS005 [2d*\]: what kind of byo-yomi?
CyberMage [9k*\]: i have bets here
fajnymis [3k\]: when i was on EGC korean 7ds was saing all the \
time tsumego most important
ING2005: counting now
gosein [7k*\]: how log is byo-yomi?
countlessy [12k\]: +6.5, no ?
sark [7k*\]: 7.5
Zero9090 [21k*\]: 4.5
countlessy [12k\]: ING komi 7.5 ?
YeknomGib [22k*\]: 1.5!
ING2005: white has 43 points (ING komi technically 8.0)
fajnymis [3k\]: 4 stones on the bord but 7,5
ING2005: black 38
ING2005: oh, not an ING game, sorry
avalenche [19k*\]: so without komi
ING2005: 7.5 yeah
avalenche [19k*\]: black would have won
ING2005: so 4.5 white win
play4fun [2d*\]: Thanks for your work ING2005
ING2005: you're welcome
dniles [10k*\]: Is it single elimination?
sark [7k*\]: welcome welcome
ING2005: the U.S. Open is not an elimination tournament
gosein [7k*\]: any more games? when?
avalenche [19k*\]: how ranked are the two players here?
dniles [10k*\]: Oh.  How is the winner chosen?
countlessy [12k\]: ... Look at the game's headtitle ?
ING2005: next round of the U.S. Open is Thursday, there will \
be an ING game tonight, and the next U.S. Masters game will be \
thursday evening
countlessy [12k\]: Or are you using a funny client ?
avalenche [19k*\]: i meant
avalenche [19k*\]: 8d pro?
gosein [7k*\]: thx ING2005
countlessy [12k\]: That would be 8p then
ING2005: this game was Lu Wang 8d (W) vs Cornel Burzo 7d (B)
avalenche [19k*\]: ok
ING2005: no, both are amateur
akushu [4d\]: w +3.5?
ING2005: yep
avalenche [19k*\]: w+4.5 u said no?
ING2005: yeah, sorry - 4.5
gosein [7k*\]: next game of cornel burzo, when?
ING2005: my brain is still fried from following that ko fight
dniles [10k*\]: If US Open isn't elimination, how is the winner \
chosen?
zhenyu [3d*\]: w won?
zhenyu [3d*\]: or b won?
gosein [7k*\]: points ->dniles
ING2005: the winner is chosen by tournament points and tiebreaking \
scores if necessary
zhenyu [3d*\]: who won?
ING2005: White won
dniles [10k*\]: Thanks
zhenyu [3d*\]: by 4.5?
ING2005: yep
zhenyu [3d*\]: thanks!
ING2005: no problem!
zhenyu [3d*\]: did you see game played by Ge Yongfei?
ING2005: I'm going to go get something to drink and see if any \
interesting pro lectures are going on now :)
zhenyu [3d*\]: a canadian player?
ING2005: no, this was almost the last game running
gosein [7k*\]: ING2005 do u know when cornel burzo plays next \
time
ING2005: he will be in the next U.S. Open round on Thursday, \
however he may not be at one of the boards being broadcast on \
IGS
zhenyu [3d*\]: do you have any way to know how is Ge Yongfei doing \
in the tournament?
zhenyu [3d*\]: i mean how many wins and loses so far
zhenyu [3d*\]: he's a 7d
ING2005: I'd have to find and ask the tournament director, who \
may or may not have time to look it up :P
zhenyu [3d*\]: ok :-)
ING2005: I know who he is; I recorded one of his games in the \
ING Cup last year :)
zhenyu [3d*\]: he's a 7d in IGS
ING2005: but I'm going to give this game record to the e-journal \
editor and see if there are any interesting pro lectures going \
on now
ING2005: I'll see you all later
zhenyu [3d*\]: ok. thanks!
ING2005: thanks for watching!]
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